ratty looking student tapping away on a computer Noframe tag.
Lesson 17a.

roses Misc. Frame Stuff!


Want everyone to see your page?
Use the noframe tag.

If you use frames in your site, it's guaranteed that some people, using older browsers, won't be able to see your page. Fix this with a non framed version of your home page or a, sorry this browser doesn't support frames, message with a link to an alternative, non-framed home page. This all goes between a pair of noframes and body tags inside your main pair of frameset tags.

Sorry, no can see, message. 


<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Experiment Frame Page</TITLE>
</HEAD>

<FRAMESET ROWS="100,*">

<FRAME SRC="title.html">
  
      <FRAMESET COLS="150,*">
          <FRAME SRC="links.html">
          <FRAME SRC="top.html" NAME="top-page">
      </FRAMESET>

     <NOFRAMES>
     <BODY>   
      G'day. So you want to see Kimberly's html 
      lessons. Unfortunately, that site has frames
      which your computer wont let you see.
      Sorry about that!
      </BODY>   
      </NOFRAMES>

</FRAMESET>

</HTML>

Sorry, no can see, message with a link.

<NOFRAMES>
<BODY>
G'day. So you want to see Kimberly's html lessons. Unfortunately, that site has frames which your computer wont let you see. Click here, for non-framed version of this page.
</BODY>
</NOFRAMES>

I could make the link go to top.html but can you guess the problem? Yep! There's no list of links on this page. Have a look! I would have to combine the 3 frames top.html, links.html and title.htm, into one page. Next, I would save it as top2.html in the same folder that has all my lessons. The link code would read :

<a href="top2.html">Blah! blah!</a>

Bang the whole non-frame page between the body tags.
You could put the entire non-frame version of your front page between the 2 body tags instead of a message and a link.
It's more common to put a link though.
<NOFRAMES>
<BODY>
Alternative homepage content
</BODY>
</NOFRAMES>

Don't use frames.
The last option around the problem of the frame handicapped not being able to view your page is simple. Don't use frames!! Ta daaaa! Kimberly's simple solution.